Scott,

Have you ever heard of such a business practice? We also are being taught to encourage 100% participation in the educational system, functions, etc. When we began to realize the expenses we were incurring and ask about returning some extra startup kits we had on hand we have been avoided and the only response we got was that we just needed to show more plans and make sure that the new IBO's got their kits. We now realize also that we do not "own" anything and the "numbers" do not reflect the bonuses paid out to your downline.

Thank you for all your research and if we can be of assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

I am a recent IBO. Friends of mine signed me up and they are big time into amway and the way of life. They have been doing it for 13 years.

My question is I was thinking of signing up the school my children go to as a way for them (the school) to make extra money. The grades go K-8 and there are about 180 students. If the school just signs people up to buy the products as IBO and there isn't any retail sales will it be able to make any money. And is it better for the school to sign everyone up themselves or say have one parent in charge of each class and that parent sign up under the school. This relates to the width you talk about in your web site.

I just don't want to get my children's school wrapped up in all this and never have any money to show for it.

Best

Samantha

I would just like to say if I am allowed to that the site you have is no good. My wife and I are current IBO's, and we are having the time of our lives building this great vehicle that we are blessed with. I have to admit, you are a great statistician when it comes to facts and figures, but did you ever work the business. Over-educated people find themselves caught up in pieces of paper that can be used just in case the toilet paper runs low, it has the same value: NOTHING!!!! You

Masters Degree in today's economy, does not mean a thing. Has it ever occured to you that Business Team is Unified and "well-intentioned" people like you do not stand a chance. Recently, my sponsor is no longer building the business, thats fine. It just means that Satan took one more person to the land of nothingness. He will eventually be no better off in life. And where do you get off taking shots at the DeVos and Van Andel Families. They are Godly people that I think the world's business leaders need to follow a great example that the DeVos and Van Andel families have set. The friendships that we have built are far more important to my wife and I, than anything. The key thing that was not mentioned in you site by the satanic morons, is faith in God. The people that agree with this garbage are the same people who are:(1) Broke, (2) Bad Marriages, (3)Liberals. I don't feel sorry for them. I am proud of what I have a hold of. I am currently part of a pyramid scheme, it is called JOB. No matter what I do, I can never make as much as or more money than the CEO!!!!! Think About That!!!!

Hello Scott,

Just wanted to let you know that I liked your site and the depth of it, your supporting evidence, and strategic approach of dissecting the business.

I finally quit Amway 2 years ago when I bought a special standing order from WWDB that was the cheapest video tape you have ever seen and you were supposed to give this cheesy tape to prospects to get them in. It was embarrassing and the worst part about it is that it was $15 for a tape that probably cost $1 to produce.

Can you give me more info on the claim that the high level diamonds make 60% of their income from tools? Also, can you give me any updates on what happened to Glen Baker and his group, Ron Puryear, etc?

Thank you for your time!

HI!

I think you are a Loooooser!!!You blame Amway for your fails, I think you have a problem. Now you esteblished a club of failors just like you, and you join together for pity-party: poor me! You don't have any sense of responsibility.

I've been in Amway for two months, I was able to save money for PC, end of this month a guy is coming over to set connection to the internet.

Sorry for my poor English, I come from Russia, live in Holland for 1 year now. Never spoke dutch before in my life. Now I show the plan in dutch.

I live in town(rent a flat) while a lot of other people who didn't believe this would work still get cents from the government (hardly enough for food) and live in refugee's centers.

You should be ashamed of yourself: you couldn't succeed in the business and instead of shut up and move on with your life, you tell the world about it.

Lena,

Thank you Scott for your website...it has answered a lot of questions and doubts I had. I have been involved with quixtar and it had an incredibly bad effect on my life. Now that I am out it is like a weight being lifted off your chest. No more Diamond/Emerald breathing down my neck to get to my dear friends and family to scam them. I hope those bastards will never take down your site by that legal B.S.

Thanks again.

~Grant

Scott,

Hi, my name is Tim Below and I live in Destin, Florida. I am in the Quixtar opportunity and have been for three years. My experience has been the most beneficial of anything that I have ever been involved in. You make some good points about the business and I have to agree that people say some crazy things that are not based on facts but, that is people for you. You have to give people room to be a little weird. The one thing that I would like to express to you is that people are predictable and that this is a business. Most people treat this business like a hobby and hobbies end up costing a person money. The reason most people do not make any money in this business is that they have a poor self-image and are not willing to change. I heard a quote that, "your business will never out grow your self-image."

That statement sums it all up. I started my business three years ago and guess what, for the first year I made a grand total of $1250 with an incrdible amount of work put into it. I was showing the plan at least three times a week. My income might not of been soaring through the roof and yes, I had spent more than I had made. The important thing that was happening was that I got into the books and tapes and started to learn how to effectively deal with people. If you can not effectively deal with people, your ability to be successful is slim. Fear is what keeps people from becoming successful and that comes from within. Do not get me wrong, this business being wonderful and all has people in it and anytime that people come into play there will be situations and that can not be helped. This business though can help a person achieve anything that a person wants as long as they stay focused and works the business. It is a tough business, I tell everybody that we sponsor that it is a simple concept to understand but its not easy because you deal with people. If you understand how to effectively deal with people you can make this business into a very profitable busy but, that takes change in a person. Scott most people are afraid of change and speaking to other people and that is why people let their fears control their lives. Reading some of your information, you seem to be an intelligent individual, its not the business that causes people to fail, its themselves because they aren't willing to change. I had no choice, I was seriously looking because my wife and I had to do something financially and when we saw the presentation we knew that this was it,long term though. So many people think that when they sign up they will automatically become successful, not true. If a person is willing to look at the business and decide that it is not a get rich scheme, that it is a long term business and be willing to give it a try for at least a year before they make a decision. I have personally sponsored 24 people and can honestly say that the numbers that they told me were correct. 1 out of 4 will do it and that is right on the money in my situation. I have watched people that I have sponsored go and do just the opposite that I suggest them to do. They might make a list of people that they know of 5 or 6 people and that is it. Because they have such a poor self-image they are afraid to talk to someone and end up quitting even when they never really got started. The people that I have sponsored, all can say that I was there to help them and would of done anything that I could of to help them become successful. When your fears are bigger than your dreams you will live a life of quiet desperation. Like I said earlier I made a decision that I was going to do whatever it took to make this business work and since then we have been able to replace my wife's income and now she is able to stay home with my kids ages 6 and 2. Just seeing the look on my wifes face when I told her she did not have to go to work anymore was worth every no-show, every excuse that I heard and every dumb individual who tried to tell me that this business would not work. Since being in the business and growing and changing as a person we have been able to create other streams of income besides our Quixtar income and I have the Britt World Wide system to thank for that. Was it easy, absolutely not but it was worth it. Scott I hope things go well for you and if you want to reply go ahead and if not that is o.k. also. Have a good one and be careful.

Tim

Lets make some of the data posted at your site a little more detailed. (WWDB line of sponsorship) Kate is $30/month, there is no PV/BV. My best guess is that they cut Amvox off because they were not making any cut... Kate is slow and cumbersome and expensive. WWDB even pays the platinum a Kate bonus. Hmmm why not just reduce the price for everyone. StarCLient is a windows wannabe.. All software is moving to the web so that you can be mobile and still access your apps/data. Guess what, starclient is stuck on the PC... Also, the maintenance fee is the same as the purchase price...Industry standard maintenance fee is 13-19% of the purchase price and Starclient is 100%

Lastly, we say e Commerce but we are still driving around town, visiting an oily garage for product pickup

From: "Brian J. Meara II" <mearab@katewwdb.com>

To: <scott.larsen@juno.com>

Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:38:50 -0400

You're a joke! What a pitiful excuse of a man. Hah!

Scott,

Sincerely,

Dear Mr. Larsen,

I have checked out your site several times because I have a close loved one who is an IBO. We have many philosophical differences and I read your site for comfort and defense of my own ideologies. I am not involved in Quixstar, nor will I ever be.

This weekend (Sept. 15) the Quixstar/Britt Corporation did not cancel or postpone a rally for IBO's in Raleigh NC. Instead of participating in our nation's week of mourning and remembrance, many IBO's were traveling to Raleigh to extoll the virtues of this company. I feel this is a direct demonstration of this company's cultism, not patriotism or spiritualism as they advertise themselves, although I am sure the rally is under the cover of this. I urge people to NOT become involved in a company that will most certainly exploit this tragedy for their own gain. They place the demands of their wallets above the demands of our hearts. This is a new low of its demostration of control over those involved. My IBO friend is now claiming that the attacks were most certainly attacks against free enterprise. In my mind, this statement is uninformed and ignorant--as is the company these people believe in.

My relationship with my loved one is totally shattered. I do not feel I will even be able to speak to him again. I know IBO's are doing what they feel is right at this time of tragedy, but they are being misguided and mislead by those over them.

They deserve our thoughts and prayers as well.

Thank you Mr. Larsen for giving me a way to express my feelings.

Scott,

After reading your site I have some questions for you. You keep talking about the 100 PV plan, I have never heard of this, our plan is based on 300PV (750BV). Does this make any difference in "the numbers"? My line of sponsership is Puryear, Duncan, etc. Retail is encouraged very much in our group too. Any numbers you can give me for the 300 PV model will help a lot, any thoughts too. Good site, keep up the good work.

Justin

Scott, I

have a guy at work that is trying to get me to take a look at the opportunity. I have gone to Amway meetings in the past and just could not get the picture (pyramid). The person, showing the plan in front of about fifty (50) people, makes it look easy. I'm being told that you'll have your own business, buy your own products, and convince others to buy their products through you. Is this the truth? Is this all there is to making money. I do recall that the Amway business was about $500.00 to join. Now I'm being told that Quixtar is about $132.00 to join. Does any of this work? I read your web page and I thought it was great. I wonder how many of people that showed the plan to me actually still are active and actually making money. As soon as you approach someone anymore about a business opportunity, they ask if it is Amway. Then they are totally not interested. Please e-mail me at your earliest convenience. I will probably hold-off on seeing the plan until I get some information from you.

Thanks,

Joe.

Your very informative site. I was referred to join Q. by a friend across the country, who sent me the package to view/review. After viewing the video & part of the CD, I went online & searched & found you. So thanks for saving me $250+. My husband thanks you too.

Barbara

Hi Scott,

I was approached by the husband of a work colleague of mine, (after having met him socially once), who was so impressed with my business sense and great character that he wanted to talk about a great business opportunity. Not being a US citizen, I was completely unaware of the Amway/Quixtar business model (or connection), so I decided to do some research myself. I came across your website and it was so incredible that practically everything that this person had told me, was quoted on your web pages. I did due dilligence (couple of hours) and compared Quixtar prices with Costco and found Costco to be much cheaper for similar products. I read more detail on your website and the next time that person called, I could almost predict each answer he gave to my questions. I was amazed, in fact I strung him on a bit, just for fun, I really got a kick out of listening to the canned spiels. In the end I politely said that based on my price comparisons that I could not see how Quixtar was competitive and that I had a strong philosophy that in a free market, competiveness must prevail and I could not conciously participate in such a plan. That did the trick but I definitely got a sense of an attitude change when he realized he was getting nowhere with me.

We met about three times for lunch which usually ended up talking about Quixtar, so I guess that he may have been disappointed that his effort got nowhere. I guess he sensed my reluctance after I sent him some price comparison sheets because his wife (my colleague) sent me the following email... (I removed name references, they may be misguided but they are still basically nice people)

>>>>>

Hello Patrick,

Hope you and the family are well. I've been watching the communication between you and XXXX - and just wanted to poke my nose in for a second to add my 2 cents:

If you want to replace your income and retire in 5 years, then find out more about what we are doing. There is a great deal of money to be made, and we are looking for just one more couple as partners...I thought of you!

I almost lost sight of the forest for the trees too, until I found out more and now I am passionate about our business. (XXXX my husband) is more analytical, and he really knows his stuff - as do the people who are mentoring/coaching us. Our business partners and mentors (MENTOR 1 NAME) has retired from his teaching job and lives on the residual income from his business. Our other partner and mentor is (MENTOR 2 NAME). He too has retired and lives on residual income alone (to the tune of 20K a month!). This is a systematic proven enterprise, and we have done our homework.

Best regards,

YYYYY

P.S. Also ask XXXX about Tennessee.

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In short, I think that the real math, no nonsense information and references that you have incorporated into your website were exactly what I needed, to come to a logical decision on whether or not to join Quixtar. I am amazed (again as a non US Citizen) that such a scheme can legally exist (and thrive) in the United States.

Thank you again for making and maintaining your fine website. Truly a public service!!

Regards,

Patrick

Hi,

Nice page. I subscribed as an IBO recently and I decided to go to one of the quarterly functions. I'm bringing a printout of most of your site with me. I will be asking a lot of questions, believe me!

Things seem to be falling off here as well. No opens, no regionals no nothing. Also only 2 IBO's in the local phone book( there used to be 12 ). Southern Calif. Reg. Dist. Center has been closed.
Don

The tools are very important. Yes, they cost money. They are not always cheap. Yes, someone makes money on the back end. If the IBO is utilizing the tools and LEARNING from those tools, that cost is a short term sacrifice. Unfortunately some people don't process what they hear or read. Cost of tools shouldn't be an issue.

Stressing sales is very important, as you say, but heavy selling is not required to build a large and profitable business. As the business team grows with IBOs building it correctly, so does the income. The numbers clearly show that. This only happens with IBOs that are forward with the prospects, learning from the tools, and acts on what they have learned.

No aggression intended. I'm just trying to properly inform you as you are try to properly inform your readers. I really like that you want to inform people about the TRUE facts and figures of our business for those who may incidentally leave it out. Thank you for reading my E-mail. Please post it in it's entirety (not just what you want your readers to see or what the people filling your pockets want readers to see) with your other readers comments. Thanks again. E-mail me sometime if you get the time.

Scott:

I found your site to be one of the best in terms of providing hard numbers. I can see you have researched the business very well and have done your best to be neutral.

Would you know of any other websites that have regular feedback from its viewers (The only one I can think of is the 'getfacts.com' website). Lately requests on updates for some of the INA Diamonds have gone unanswered (I sent an email to Jason of the 'getfacts.com' website also). Do you know of any other sites, email addresses of folks who know of the latest whereabouts of the top INA distributors.

thanks,

Scott,

I would like to thank you with deepest respect for the volumes of information you've assembled regarding Quixtar/Amway. You are a voice of true reason amidst the hype of this company's pyramidal strategies. Please be encouraged and keep up the great work.

Sincerely,

Chris from MA

Mr. Larsen,

I am a 25 year old girl from Greece who, along with my boyfriend, has been informed about this Amway thing two days ago. A friend of my boyfriend's invited us to our house and a distributor (is it called?) made a presentation to us!

Even though we weren't that impressed, as we thought that it was too good to be true, we became members just by curiosity!! The good thing is that we can sign off anytime we want.. right?

Anyway, the reason why I contact you is that I didn't understand some things from your site, because my english isn't so advanced. So i'd appreciate it, if you could tell me in plain english, why shouldn't I trust them, how these diamonds and .. perls (!) got where they are (if it's real) and what would be the best way to avoid that man in a good way.. By the way, my boyfriend's friend is too excited with all this..

Whenever you have the time you can answer me, but I would really appreciate it if it was as soon as possible, because he wants me to start inviting people; and if it's to make fun of myself in front of friends and family...... well thanks, but no thanks!!

I'll be looking very forward to your response!

Yours

Anna

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